The current climate – at least over in the States – seems to be there’s three great white hopes for heavy music. When I talk to people from labels or magazines, it comes down to us, Turnstile or Code Orange, and they always say, ‘One of you is gonna save the music industry!’ That idealism really gets under my skin, because I don’t see why it ever has to be one band.
When you consider the Big Four, you could argue that Metallica were number one, but you don’t hear those bands bickering about who was top dog. They’re always like, ‘We shared this space and we were all successful.’ It’s similar with Turnstile and Code Orange. We’ve all come up together, we’re all friends, and we’re all sitting around, like, ‘This is so stupid.’ It frustrates us because it feels like we have to compete, and we don’t!