There's also some really cool video of you guys rehearsing on there. How did that come about?
We just got together for a jam and we filmed it. But it wasn’t like a special thing for it, it’s just us knocking about doing The Wizard and a bit of Changes. I just did what they asked me to, you know? But I think that’s cool to have the rehearsal stuff on there, because it shows us having fun and being quite relaxed. At the end of the day, though, it’s fucking over! It’s like someone dying of old age. I can’t really put into words what it felt like. We all – me, Geezer and Tony – we all felt an emotional bond, you know? We do argue, we fall out, we make up, but we kept on going, one way or another.
Was it cool that you could bring the curtain down on your own terms?
The big problem was, the big thing was, it didn’t work for Bill, you know? I wish it could have done. I feel sad about that, but hey, we didn’t have time to fucking wait around, you know?
You went pretty much straight into doing your own shows after – did that make it easier, having the next thing to do already in the diary?
Like I say, I was out of Sabbath and on my own for 35 years. It was like an old girlfriend for me. You go, ‘Alright, I’ve seen her’. It was nearly a perfect moment. If Bill Ward had been there, it would have been. But I’m not saying too much about that, because he’ll see it, and then go getting on the computer – you know what he’s like. Next.
As soon as the tour was done, rumours started that there would be more. Is that going to happen?
No. Not with me. I’m done. I fell into that trap myself a few years ago when I said I’d retire. Retire from fucking what? It doesn’t mean to say I’m retiring – I’m not, I’ve been doing gigs since Black Sabbath – but Black Sabbath as an entity is no more. If they ask me to do one more… In actual fact, the big mistake we made was not doing it next year, when it’ll be 50 years since we all got together! But if someone asks if I’ll do a one-off show – no. I’m done.
Come on, man, it'd be awesome!
No. Nonono. It’s gone. When I retired before, I came back and did the Retirement Sucks Tour [in 1995-6], but it doesn’t work twice. If that’s the case, we should have just sat down and gone, ‘This is 49 years, we should stretch it out to the fiftieth.’ But it’d go on forever, and people would get pissed off, you know?!
Black Sabbath: The End Of The End hits cinemas on Thursday, September 28 and you can book tickets by visiting blacksabbathfilmtickets.com.
Words: Nick Ruskell
Photos: Ross Halfin