Jacoby sees the parallels between 2021’s crop of genre-melding firebrands riding the crest of a digital revolution and the nu-metal scene, of which Papa Roach were a part, coinciding with the proliferation of broadband and the MySpace phenomenon all those years ago.
“For us it was always about melding genres and bringing new things together. Watching Aerosmith collaborate with Run-DMC as a young kid. Seeing Beastie Boys throwing guitars into their rap. Watching bands like Faith No More, Korn, Deftones and Incubus fusing styles. It’s rad to see there’s a new generation that’s embracing that melding of styles and bringing sounds together while using technology to get it out there.”
“Matter cannot be created or destroyed,” Jeris picks up. “Everything that’s created needs to come from something that already exists. But it’s not just about combining rap and rock any more. It’s about taking 10-plus things and combining them to the point where you need to create a new word to describe what it is.”
Compared to the grassroots bedrock of sweaty shows and hard yards earned on which Papa Roach built their reputation, we can’t help but wonder whether there might be a transitory negative to the TikTok phenomenon, with so many creators competing for attention in this crowded digital space, and rapid rises to prominence mirrored by equally sudden departures from the limelight?
Greatness, Jacoby contends, will always shine through.
“I’m a firm believer that the cream rises to the top – on any platform, in any space, at any time, through any creative medium. We had our boots on the ground coming up. We’d be out there flyering and playing shows in our backyards, at keg-parties, teen centres or bars. But there were a million bands that came and went in that time, too. Nowadays that happens on the screen of your phone. Not everyone is meant to be a musician. Not everyone can make music that connects with people. Time will weed that shit out. Ultimately, it’s down to the people to cast their vote. They’ve cast their vote for P-Roach in the past. Now they’re casting their votes for Jeris. Success is still in the fans’ hands. Now it’s just literally in their hands.”
And what of the need for that visceral, in-the-flesh connection with (and between) fans? Much as recording together feels like a nice substitute for offering a support slot to a young artist in the time of pandemic, is there a danger fans could become distanced from a genre that traditionally needs to be experienced live and loud?
“Nothing’s better than 100 hearts beating in the same room, jumping and moshing,” Jeris nods, emphatically. “I hope that that’ll always be there. But it’s not mutually exclusive. I don’t look at the internet thinking about its limitations. I think about how it’s limitless. Bands are getting bogged down about not being able to play a live show right now, while I’m trying to focus on how we can do 10 other really cool things. And, although it hasn’t been done yet, who’s to say there couldn’t be an online movement as powerful as an in-person one? Technology is getting pretty fuckin’ good. Me and Jacoby are doing a fan Zoom session in a couple of days. Imagine what that might be like in 10 years' time…”