“We’d been a band for three years, playing every single little venue in the UK, and this was when we felt like, ‘Maybe we’re getting somewhere.’ After those hilarious, but quite agonising and difficult, three years, it was a really nice feeling. And it was the first time we’d ever had lasers! We’d just got a lighting person and we had a meeting with them and our tour manager, and they said, ‘You can afford lasers or pyro, you can’t afford both.’ We were like, ‘What if we got both?’ And they said, ‘You wouldn’t make any money.’ We were like, ‘We’ll do both then,’ which has basically been our philosophy for forever. We were kids in a toy shop. I remember when the lasers first came on in the transition in Return To Energiser and Rob was so blown away by the moment, he just lost himself and he didn’t come back in at the right time. It was a hilarious moment.”